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cliff negotiations, that are going to eliminate this middle class tax hike, but the fact is, payroll taxes are going up. if you make $50,000 a year, you're going to pay a thousand more in taxes so when the president and congressional leaders stand up and say we saved the world, we avoided middle class tax hikes and look at your paycheck, you're going to realize they talk in a different language in washington and people get burned. stuart: i know you've got a poll on the blame game. i'm going to put it up on the screen now. i think it sails 44% will blame the republicans if we go over the cliff and 36% blame the president, scott, i think that's much more narrow than i thought. i thought republicans would overwhelmingly get trashed on this and get all-- >> no, because the republican voters say the president is to blame for everything. if their favorite football team lost it's the president's fault. a good solid base of republicans that have a different way and republican-leaning independents and 50% say both sides are to blame and the cynicism is unbelievable. they just, you know, righ
is no deal on taxes. nearly every american is going to have to pay more in just eight days if congress can't reach some kind of an agreement. checking the big board right now, the dow jones industrial average is down about 41 points. again, we've got a half day of trading and we close today at 1 p.m., so that traders can go out on christmas break. light volume, but there are significant movers that we'll talk about in just a second. in particular, apple and jb penpejb-- j.c. penney. we have shibani joshi and adam shapiro as well and first to nicole, j.c. penney, a lot of people worried about retail sales, think it's going to hit companies like j.c. penney hard? guess what? the stock is up 4%, why? >> that's a huge move on a day when the major market average, look the at j.c. penney, it's posted comments from oppenheimer this morning, talking about the fact that promotions are working well and bringing traffic into john kerry opiniony, you know that we spoke about ron johnson and came up from apple and his whole theory, was no promotion and great prices all the time and that really was work
in terms of what we think the rates should be for -- and at what point there should be a tax cut and at what point there should be a little revenue that we should collect. there is a difference there. there was a difference about whether or not we should be looking at the social security issue in this discussion. my understanding now the republicans have backed off now, correct, and we are looking at whether or not we are going to end up with deficit and debt reduction and whether or not the changes the republicans are insisting upon are going to comes on the backs of the middle class. >> seine toe, the clock is tick. and i'm sure you heard during your campaign, which you just won, a lot of people saying what is going on with washington? we are so close now this deadline. you can't -- probably hard to put into words how frustrated people are are a lot of talking going on and you can't come together with republicans and they can't come together with you to stop taxes from going up for all americans. >> well, the american people in their wisdom sent a divided government to washingt
republicans have had trouble saying yes." what has been going on here? wanted to president's raise taxes for people making over $250,000 a year and do that with some budget cuts and some and tom reform and that he has not been able to get any kind of action from the republicans. he believes there is a negotiation in which he has been the only person willing to put forward any kind of compromise and the house republicans have not been able or willing to do. the vote john boehner schedule and had to cancel is evidence of that in the present cost mind -- in the president's mind. we have part of what speaker boehner said. "the comments today are ironic as a recurrent theme was his unwillingness to stand up to anything in his own party. from the republican side of the aisle and speaker boehner, where are things at the moment? guest: the speaker had been hoping there would be a larger deal. the president was ready to move forward on in the time they had in front of them. this was in vision at one point to be the grand bargain which would incorporate in atomic reform and all sorts of budget cut
. gregg: this is it. we are just hours away from falling off the so-called fiscal cliff. tax hikes for nearly every american. lots of different ones. spending cuts of totaling more than a trillion dollars. by all indications, nothing, we mean nothing has changed on capitol hill. senate majority leader harry reid saying significant distance remains between the two sides. good morning everyone, i'm gregg jarrett in for bill hemmer here in "america's newsroom.". >> i'm heather childers in for martha maccallum the senate gavels in at 11:00 a.m. we'll see if there was some miracle overnight. gregg: i doubt that. yesterday, republican senate leader mitch mcconnell made an emergency call to the vice president joe biden in an evident to jump-start negotiations. heather: if no deal is haed out today, majority leader reid says he will call a vote on a separate white house plan that reflects's original proposal. gregg: chief correspondent mike emanuel kicks off the coverage. mike, where do the things stand in the fiscal cliff talks at this critical late-stage? >> reporter: gregg, there seems
. what tax and spending issues do need included in any compromise. republicans, your number is -- democrats -- independents -- if you are outside the u.s. -- you can also catch up with us on all your favorite social media sites, twitter, facebook, or e- mail us. a very good morning to you. taking to the latest headlines on the fiscal cliff. i will run a few -- through a few of them for you. from "the daily news" -- also "l.a. times" -- i will take to "a "boston globe"" -- "the boston globe" -- the new york post -- the story i want to start with this morning is from politico. that line is -- senate leaders are headed into a critical sunday session of congress with a similar mission to avoid historic tax hikes, setting the stage for a high wire a final act of fiscal cliff negotiating just two days before the country is hit with a series of tough austerity measures. -- that again is from politico this morning. you're getting your thoughts, and we want to hear your message to congress on the fiscal cliff negotiations. the politico story mentioned what was happening on saturday e
it to the conversation of exactly where these tax cuts could take place if they happened after january 1st. the republicans want to vote to lower taxes. okay? see them go right to left as it were. the democrats want to see them go down and the republicans it appears increasingly clear are not going to vote to change the figure below the $1 million mark that boehner didn't get past the caucus unless they say to their people at home, they voted to lower taxes on all americans. >> peter, that was extraordinary. >> reporter: i tried. >> one of the best on this show. thank you! >> we have also got mike viqueira. mike? a lot of people and myself included believe that the payroll tax cut is the most damaging part of this for the middle class. if we do not extend it $125 billion comes out of the economy this year. so, you know, when's the latest on the payroll tax cut? any chance it's extended as part of a deal? >> reporter: great question. i cannot compete with peter's metaphor. it's a full court heave as the buzzer is sounding. that's the odds for a deal before monday night new year's eve. the p
that immediately. senate democrats saying we passed a bill that raises tax rates on incomes over $250,000, we ran on this and this is what we are offering. house republicans were saying, no, we want to negotiate something, figure it out and send it to us. someone is going to have to move. who? the president met with senate majority leader harry reid before going to hawaii and his offer was to extend the tax cuts for incomes under $250,000, extend unemployment insurance benefits, and the lady across the board automatic cuts that are supposed to start january 1. that seems to be a non starter with republicans. it's hard to see where we go from here. host: have they been talking over the christmas break at all? also, one has been the role of senator mitch mcconnell? guest: the line that comes from the speakers office all the time is the line of communication remain open. i don't know how much talking they did as the president was in hawaii spending time with his family and the speaker was back home in ohio, i believe. i don't know that for sure. everyone was doing their family time and not really wo
that they gave ground on other issues, including raising the tax threshold, as well as -- that was from two hours ago. sheila jackson mentioned the change that she objects to, she and other outside democrats and house progressives in particular. don is on the democrat's line. go ahead with your comments. caller: i am an old disabled veteran. i love this country so much. i cannot understand for the life of me what our government is trying to do with the bickering and tearing each other down, tearing the country down. why in the world can these supposedly intelligent groups of men and women not get together to work out for the best interest of all concerned, all 330 billion americans, what is the best course to take? just take it. none of this squabbling. get together, folks. let's have some harmony in warrington. that is what we need. we need more on selfishness. a lot less ulterior motives. no more 2000 page bills that no one can understand. we do not need more of that crap in washington. we need some representation. get your act together. >> we are going next to minneapolis, minnesota. john, wel
in a speech a week ago which is to keep taxes where they are for families earning less than $250,000 a year and to extend long-term unemployment insurance benefits that is basically just a small slice of what the president had been proposing for quite some time. the administration official also says that the president is putting it on republicans to come up with a counteroffer that they say can pass the house and the senate. if not, the president said, he wants an up-or-down vote on his proposal in the house or the senate. so congressional leaders left here. other than house minority leader nancy pelosi i'm now hearing senate majority leader harry reid has joined her in making comments back at capitol hill. we'll let you know what they say as soon as that is transmitted to us. there are other directed comments they made little progress something they have been saying after the meetings the last few months. adam? >> we're looking to turn around reid's comments so we all can hear them. when you talk about the president he is up-or-down vote, someone referred to this as plan-c. is this the off
are optimistic about a mini deal which, of course, will raise taxes on those above $400,000. expand the amt, cut some spending. what are you hearing? >> reporter: well, hearing a lot of different things right now. one of the items and ruled by rumor and then denials and frustrations, toure. we know that we saw senators mcconnell and reid arriving a short time ago. we didn't pelosi and boehner arrive yet but the vice president joe biden got here a short time ago, as well. there's other reporting from the hill right now about the potential that the president is going to return to what was basically his original outlined plan. perhaps a smaller plan but a plan where the threshold would be set closer to $250,000 as he initially had before the $400,000 offer that john boehner the white house would contend walked away from when he proposed his $1 million threshold in this situation right now. that and a priority that the president outlined a week ago on friday before leaving to join the family in hawaii saying he wanted to extend unemployment benefits for a lot of americans. 2 million plus beginning t
the right tax incentives, and that we need a right of work force that is educated. jefferson has the view that the government needs to support manufacturing. now, this becomes the american economic system and influences henry, abraham lincoln, and is the governing philosophy of america's rise in industrialization. herbert hoover, when i got to the commerce building, and why would your name be in the commerce building, the president responsible for the depression, there's a lot of republic for hoover. he was not the best president, but a great commerce secretary. he was the secretary of commerce and under secretary of everything else, and he was working for calvin coolidge, and you know what hoover did? he believed in the american economic system, and he and calvin coolage, the apostle of limited government, poured in millions of dollars to the aviation industry which is still in wichita, kansas, funded the existence of infrastructure, and calvin coolidge, quoted in the book, talks about the importance of the investment in roads. eisenhower, of course, with the highways, and even reagan in
make sure middle class taxes stay where they are and there should be an up or down vote. everybody should have a right to vote on that. if republicans don't like it, they can vote no. but i actually think there's a majority support for making sure the middle class families are held harmless. >> if you go over to cliff, what's the impact on the markets which have been pretty confident now it would get done? >> it's hard to speculate on the market, but obviously, i think business and investors will feel more negative about the economy next year. if you look at projections of 2013, people generally felt the economy would continue to grow, housing would continue to improve, but what's been holding us back is the dysfunction here in washington. and if, you know, people start seeing that on january 1st this problem still hasn't been solved, that we haven't seen the deficit reduction that we could have had had the republicans been willing to take the deal that i gave them, if they say that people's taxes have gone up, which means consumer spending is going to be depressed, then, obviously
a 20% of gdp to 25% gdp and rather than cut spending raise taxes as necessary to support that spending and i would say that is in fact essentially the french model. and the question is whether it can support enough growth in the economy. >> paul: taxes are going up, we know that, spending, going up for sure even before the health care law kicks in. so, we are moving in that direction, particularly in the entitlement state. not reforming it, but actually expanding it. >> aen what happened this year was the supreme court helping this along, you have the justices essentially rewrite legislation changing the plain text that congress passed in order to declare obamacare constitutional, which is a little scary, that that highest justices in the land would take that sort of activist role and you mentioned france, dan, that's scary. the back drop of this whole presidential year is europe. we know where the path leads. and the turmoil and welfare states and how unsustainability and the high unemployment that comes with them and that was the back drop of our presidential campaign. >> paul: okay,
for government to keep raising the value added tax. we've seen it happened in spain, italy and greece and wherever it's tried. adam: i lived in spain a long time ago. i guess you realize you don't paying it at the time but things are more expensive. david: thank you, gang. thank you very much. thanks to the company. thanks to you for watching. now here are dagen and dennis. hi, gang. dagen: merry christmas. love to your family. david: thank you. same to yours. dagen: i'm dagen mcdowell everybody. dennis: i'm dennis neal -- kneale. dagen: is it the fiscal cliff fears that have shoppers down this season? retailers are reporting slowing sales over the last couple of weeks. dennis: a woman fired for being too attractive and a supreme court says it is legal. dagen: i will bite my tongue because it is the top of the hour and stocks now and every 15 minutes. nicole petallides at the new york stock exchange. hey nicole. nicole: i look forward to hearing more about that particular story as i watch the stock market here, i do see the dow is down about 1/3 of 1%. majority of the dow components a
, there are well down the light. they won the taxes now. by the time the cuts come in, this ought to be turned around and it was said, we do not need the cuts now that if it has turned around. host: lots of comments coming in of this but so far. one caller rights -- sarasota, florida on the line now. good morning, jill. caller: did morning. i have only one very short thing to say. listen, everyone out there. no matter what party believe in, they're used to be a wonderful country in africa called rhodesia. we are talking about african problems, but it was a bread basket country. produce things. now it is called zimbabwe. inflation is over 1000%. that is all i am going to say to the people watching and listening to this program because we are heading in the same direction. thank you and have a wonderful new year. host: a tear from bob now in the democrat light. caller: thank you for letting me have a chance to speak. i am more optimistic -- i a more pessimistic than optimistic. i just do not think they will ever get together like they should. my one comment is when they start speaking about the
, which is raising taxes and now, and they trust us, we'll get to the spending cuts later , let's not worry about that right now. the last thing we want to see is a we-need congress and a weak-willed president patting themselves on the back because they have some watered down deal. i think they need to feel some ain, i think they need to see he the implication in the markets, in the ecomy, so, yes, i think no deal right now is better than a bad deal. >> okay, gary b, jim mentioned the market, let me play wall street on tv. basically i'm sick of this. 'm going to keep heading south because the uncertainty, the anxiety is killing me. if we had any kind of deal, at least we might see stocks move up a bit. that wld be good for our 401(k)'s, wouldn't it? >> that's exactly my perspective, brenda. this was a really rough week on the market and it's all related to, n the-- not the fiscal cliff, it's the psychology of the fisl cliff, and the sad truth is whether they do a deal now or they thoughtfully do a deal six months from now, really, nothing will be accomplished. the fact is, publi
taxes on families and small businesses. it was a mandate to work together to begin solving the massive debt that threatens our country's future. >> reporter: the house and the senate will both be back in session tomorrow and the president has said he expects them to quickly vote to pass legislation to avoid the fiscal cliff, if, he and the speaker are able to make a deal before it's too late. gregg: we'll be holding our breath. peter doocy, thanks. >> reporter: yeah. patti ann: the commander-in-chief also spent part of his holiday thanking the troops on a visit to a hawaiian military base. the president and first lady paying tribute to those here and abroad who risk their lives keeping us safe. he took time to honor their families as well. >> so many of you make sacrifices day in, day out on behalf of our freedom, on behalf of our security, and not only do those in uniform make sacrifices but i think everybody here understands the sacrifices that families make each and every day as well. and michelle --. patti ann: the president also made a series of holiday phone calls monday night th
on fox is here right now. >> just about everybody is trying to stop the tax cuts from expiring. but billions in subidies for wind energy should be expiring. could they be right or will they blow up energy prices. we'll go in focus with steve bor bes and bill and morgan. is it paying off? >> no, it is 18 times that of nuclear energy. ronald reagan was right. thest thing to immortality is a government program. politicians are labeled with hot wind and we label the section gone with the wind. >> we have sending sib sidies in '92, has it been worth it. >> we are early inlet process. we have subsidized oil and coal and gas. we have done them from darn near a century. these don't look so bad. like it or not, the majority of americans believe that global warming is an issue. we need to develop clear energy sources. fossil fuels may be a difficult problem. we are subsidizing thingings. it is cheaper to produce energy from natural gas. it is a subsidies. other than it is natural gas there. it is 63 cents compared to $53. that is not a pay off to me. >> i will have to disagree with rick.
they arote negotiating. coming up with ways to prevent tax hikes and spending cuts if no deal is reached before then. mitch mcconnell telling us they have been going back and forth all day and talks are continuing into the evening. no major progress though yet to report. and that is how fox reports on this saturday, december 29th. i'mm harris falkner. tomorrow, tune in for a specialal two-hour fox report as the fiscal cliff deadline nears on the eve of the last stock market day of theae year. we will be all over it with deadlines and they are trying to get a vote, something together. "huckabee" starts now. >> this week on the journal editorial report. a look back at the year that was and what is ahead for 2013. 2012 was a tough year for conservatives on the national level, but in the states, some hopeful signs of reform, and looking forward, is the economy headed for rebound orie session? will the new year bring a with iran? our panel is here with their prediction. >>> welcome to this special edition of "the journal editorial report" as we look back at the year that was and the challenge
automatic tax and spending measures that kick in midnight tonight. the bottom line at this hour, we are headed over the proverbial fiscal cliff. we say that because the senate hasn't voted on any kind of deal. you see it there live. and the house has said even if there is a deal, they're not going to bring any bill to a vote on this new year's eve. so the big question tonight, what impact will it have on every american? we have all of it covered, and we begin with nbc's kelly o'donnell for the latest from capitol hill. kelly? >> reporter: good evening, kate. well, congress is out of time, and frustrations are really running over. and while democrats and republicans say they want to find a solution and they are working toward that, they don't have a deal yet, and that means for now there is nothing to vote on before tonight's deadline. with your money on the line, tonight washington can only claim progress. but not success. >> it appears that an agreement to prevent this new year's tax hike is within sight. but it's not done. >> we're very, very close. >> reporter: close comes after
still scratching your head over why speaker boehner asked the caucus to vote for raising taxes and promising them that the senate wouldn't bother signing the bill anyway? left you wondering why anyone signs a dock tenant goes against their fiber, document to be used against them with the constituents? about the darn thing was d.o.a. in the senate i? way. the republicans are losing the debate on the fiscal cliff. this is obama's economy. let the president and the democrats own it and own the national debt. own the defense cut. instead, boehner and the gang allow the president to star in his own superhero film. he will cut the hawaiian vacation short and come back to save us mere mortal from the fiscal cliff. winning the optics war and winning it big. juan, how did you get the ball back from the republicans? they had it. this was obama's economy, his face calf cliff. now boehner fails on the vote and next thing you know, the ball is in your court. >> juan: i think you are right. i think boehner at the moment looking weaker. he is out of this altogether at the moment. his troops a
asked the caucus to vote for raising taxes and promising them that the senate wouldn't bother signing the bill anyway? left you wondering why anyone signs a dock tenant goes against their fiber, document to be used against them with the constituents? about the darn thing was d.o.a. in the senate i? way. the republicans are losing the debate on the fiscal cliff. this is obama's economy. let the president and the democrats own it and own the national debt. own the defense cut. instead, boehner and the gang allow the president to star in his own superhero film. he will cut the hawaiian vacation short and come back to save us mere mortal from the fiscal cliff. winning the optics war and winning it big. juan, how did you get the ball back from the republicans? they had it. this was obama's economy, his face calf cliff. now boehner fails on the vote and next thing you know, the ball is in your court. >> juan: i think you are right. i think boehner at the moment looking weaker. he is out of this altogether at the moment. his troops abandoned him. he is okay keeping the speaker on january 3 w
dollars in tax hikes and a hundred billion dollars worth of spending cuts from defense and other key domestic programs, that is if no deal is reached in time to avert it. both the house and senate with rare new year's eve sessions today as they try to hammer out some sort of an agreement. >> we do have to work together, because without bi-partisanship nothing is going anywhere. what we can do is avoid a fiscal calamity by not having the sequestration take place on january 1. jon: the white house also burning the midnight oil last night with the president saying earlier that he ways modestly optimistic the two side could strike a deal. but the key sticking points remain the same, taxing the wealthy and cutting the budget to pay for democratic spending proceed proceeds always. >> it feels an awful lot like groundhog day. this is the fourth or fifth time i've stood at this podium and i feel like i'm saying the same thing, except in the movie time re matter. every indication now is the republican congress continues to not work in good faith with the president. there is still time left an
their tax bill for 2013 will look like right now. at some point you have to say, this is what it is. i only have so many years until i retire. risk is part of the game. this is what i am willing to invest. what is your best bet? >> there is no dow that energy stocks, to me, we are seeing the spikes in oil prices today. lori: you are basically saying try to raise some cash during this last week. that could be your fine opportunity. >> right. you have to think back at what these companies are saved. they are not overly optimistic. they were not doing back flips about the future. sometimes waiting is the best investment strategy that there is. you have to begin to see whether they will begin to grow. most companies have to face the facts. most companies are making money because of cost-cutting. i think we have to really look at ways to just be ready. the best place to be -- lori: lean and mean. cash is, well, i guess that is why you had a debate. i guess i can hold on for two weeks. >> i agree. they are lean and mean. every quarter, they are cutting more and cutting more. now, we are at the po
. the stakes are clear, the payroll taxes, income taxes, you name it. they put it all together. and if they blow it, who's going to get hurt the most? >> well, i think the republicans right now are hammering themselves in the foot over and over and over again. at some point they may figure out how to stop doing that. but in the short-term doesn't look like that's happening. i think the low expectations right now are only helpful to them if they can get a deal done. it's not clear that can happen. they may even fall short of these low expectations they've had for two years now essentially both sides the white house and the congress advocating their way of getting it done. >> the barrel they're riding in them, the dysfunction around them. >> house republicans have walked away. i was there at the house conference meeting when he says we're not having a vote on plan "b." we're in this horrible standpoint right now. asking harry reid to ask and president obama to act. >> harry reid's his lifeline. let me ask you this. everybody watches politics. this isn't cnbc here, it's politics.
a op-ed, calling on washington, calling on congress and the president not to raise taxes on small business operators. what do you fear and what would you like to see happen? >> i think we're going to just wreck this very fragile economy if we raise taxes on the people who are creating jobs. they want to create jobs. we need to give the people in small business a stability, and a predictability. they need to know what to expect and all the president talks about is more taxes and more taxes and more taxes. and, on top of health care, that's why we have not gotten really any better off in unemployment than when the president took office. i just think it's time for us to stop talking about making it harder to create jobs and instead, say we champion small business and we want you to grow and expand and give us a great economy by hiring people. gerri: senator, i like what you said about stability and predictability. i think that's what a lot of people are looking for out there. thanks for coming on the show. great to have you here. i hope you come back soon. >> thanks, gerri. i love be
at how it will affect you and your pocketbook. today we're focusing on that potentially higher tax bill. ryan mack is president of optimum capital management and joins me via skype from detroit. good morning again, ryan. >> good morning, how are you doing? >> i'm doing pretty good, but we have to talk about tax rates and after that i don't know how i'll be doing. >> i understand. i understand. >> how much higherould tax rates go? >> well, we're looking at the top tax rate going to as high as 39.6% from 35%, the discussions of compromising a level of 37%. capital gains taxes increasing from 15% to 20% pre-bush tax levels. then estate taxes going as high as 55% with the $1 million exemption and currently the 35% with a $5 million exemption so we're definitely going to see a big change coming forward. >> so when will we feel it? >> well we won't feel it until 2014, when the majority of it, when the individuals file their 2013 taxes. the payroll tax cut was for individuals earning $50,000 a year, might fill a lessen in their total check in january, the majority not until 2014. >> so is ther
tax relief. people who believe in government will remember. the people who believe in national defense and social security and medicare will remember. they will know which party is trying to destroy working democracy in order to pursue its political ends. they will know who listens to the voter, who respects the voter, and who thumbs his nose at the voter and that ladies and gentlemen of the tea party right is you. we go over this cliff and you will not have to ask for whom the bell tolls, it willing tolling for you. leading off tonight josh green and chris frats of national journal. you don't have to be as clear as i, but try, gentlemen, tonight. it looks to me like one party, guns again it's asymmetric. both parties are not screwing around, one is. is that true? >> i think both parties want to go over the cliff. >> both want to go over the cliff? who will get blamed. >> i think republicans will get blamed but i think republicans at this point fear casting a career-threatening vote to raise taxes instead of waiting four days and letting the cliff -- >> and then they can technically sa
, at this point, is it's really focused on a tax deal where they come up with some number between what speaker boehner and president obama talked about, that they address things like alternative minimum tax, and put together a deal that we either try to pass before the end of the year or get agreement to come back right after the first of the year and pass it through both houses. adam: the numbers were something like the president at one point was willing to raise his baht -- bottom line to 400,000. if that's the deal, can you guys, can the men and women in our political leadership pass something before midnight, december 31? >> well, i think so. i mean, and you're going exactly the right direction. if you take what's been put on the table, you got the senate bill, you got the house bill, and you got what president obama and speaker boehner talked about, somewhere in the middle, i think, is a deal we could pass before year end, and as you say, it would be in the $400,000 to $500,000 range, but there has to be a commitment any revenue generated goes to savings, and not more spending. that's the
to raise taxes instead of waiting four days and letting the cliff -- >> and then they can technically say -- >> they're voting for a tax cut. >> do they presume the voters are that dumb? they think there's a difference? they might think that. >> they might. >> do they think the voters are that dumb to think three days difference in how you vote with the exact same result exonerates for having been an apostate on the hard world tea party? >> i think a lot of the republicans aren't worried about the general voter at large or what the national polls say -- >> only their base is stupid. they think only their base is stupid is what you're saying? >> they're worried about a primary on the right -- >> why would -- >> i don't want a democrat coming at me -- >> i know all that. let's get to the bottom line. they are arguing in their minds that they're safer to vote to keep the country going next week sometime rather than this week because they believe that the people who think they're great on the hard right will be confused. >> i don't know they're betting they will be confused, but they're betti
spending cuts, provide the unemployment benefits and still cut taxes for most americans. but it sounds like reid doesn't want to get played here. he says he's going to only bring that bill to the floor if the house agrees to work with him on final passage. the house couldn't deliver a vote on the last republican plan so that condition seems like a deal breaker. but tom cole, the number four house republican says sometimes the real imagine ek happens in the bottom of the ninth. >> i'm going to be on an airplane tomorrow headed back. i actually think there's still a chance to get something done. and so, you know, these deals usually come together at the last moment. that's what happened in the budget bill, the debt ceiling bill. i think that's going to happen again. >> joining me from capitol hill is mike viqueira. thanks for being here. >> hey. >> you heard congressman cole there, number four house republican, deputy whip. he knows a bit about this. is he just trying to sound sort of positive? what do you take from that on the ground? >> i don't think that tom cole has the constituency, alth
the cliff because then tax less go up. take a listen. >> when i listen to the president i think the president is eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. i think he sees a political victory at the bottom of the cliff. he gets all this additional tax revenue for new programs. he gets to cut the military which democrats have been calling for, for years. and he gets to blame republicans for it. >> reporter: democrats say that is ridiculous, that the president has been working with republican leaders again and again trying to workout some sort of a deal, both on spending and taxes to avoid the fiscal cliff, and democrat chuck schumer yesterday said the real problem is that republicans won't admit the president won the election and that tax rates are going up. take a listen. >> on taxes, i know it's hard for the republicans, but the president ran on that platform, 250, no tax increase for people below, but taxes for people above, he won 60% of the voters said they were for it in the exit polls, including some republicans. >> reporter: all eyes now turning to the possibility
with the president's position that both sides should avoid tax hikes on middle-class americans. also, nra executive said the group would not support any new gun laws in this country. good morning this monday, december 24, 2012. we will begin this morning with your thoughts on religion and politics. as a religion influence your political decisions? also send us your tweet if you go to twitter.com -- we will begin with the sunday review section of the "the new york times" yesterday. we want to get your take on this. it does religion influence your politics? with more people saying they are unaffiliated. we want to get your take. here are some comments from facebook this morning. what are your thoughts on this december 24, 2012. it does religion influence your politics? let me show you this from "the new york times" this morning. a new poll out worldwide religion shows up that one out of six follows no religion. that is worldwide. all religions outside the united states as well. the upi story. religious identity affect voter choice. and then on the 2012 election, here is the pew forum on religion and
of mortgage tax deductions. lou: what would happen if that would be implemented? th >> i think i would not recommen. lou: or not at this stage of theit recovery. lou: somehow i thought i would be your answer, as it would be for most homeowners who got used to that deduction. it is great to have you with us. the amaou. the fiscal cliff fiasco. the obama plan, to the speakersi boehner plan, it will either o alter the rising rate of spending were less than the science of our bloated government. the answer in tonight "chalk talk" is coming up so, this board gives me rates for progressive direct and other car insurance companies? yes. but you're progressive, and they're them. yes. but they're here. yes. are you...? there? yes. no. are you them? i'm me. but those rates are for... them. so them are here. yes! you want to run through it again? no, i'm good. you got it? yes. rates for us and them -- now that's progressive. call or click today. lou: you know, everybody's getting pretty excited about that fiscal cliff negotiation or impasse, however you want to3 style it. mayi want t showu
them own the tax hikes, let them own the defense cuts. instead boehner and the gaining are letth president to star his own superhero film. he's going to come back in and save us from the fiscal cliff while others are puffing marlboros. winning the optics war and winning it big. juan, how do you get the ball back from the democrats? they had it. next thing you know, the ball is in your court. >> i'm going to have to upset you, my friend. i think you are right. i think boehner is at the moment looking weaker. he's out of the talks all together at the moment. no role to play. his own troops have abandoned him. i'm told he's okay of keeping the speaker ship on january 3rd when they vote but you start to hear rumors about eric cantor who you see next to him possibly launching some kind of -- but it seems to me he's in a position the republicans in the senate and the white house are really the ones who will negotiate this deal and potentially you have ten or twelve republicans in the senate that will pass something and throw it back to boehner and then it will be a question, will he
the fiscal cliff. if lawmakers don't reach a solution by midnight tonight, east coast time, income tax rates will increase for all americans. coming up at 7:15, the two key players who are now in charge of negotiating a last-minute deal. >>> time now, 7:03. grocery stores and other stores in alameda county who sell food and alcohol won't be able to give you plastic bag. in place of the single use bags, stores can use paper or reusable bags but will have to charge you at coast a -- at least a dime per bag. those who collect food stamp the won't have to pay -- stamps won't have to pay. >>> minimum wage goes up to 10.55 tomorrow. university of kentucky economists say that's hurting the youngest members of the work force because employers don't want to pay teenagers more than $10 plus benefits to get their first jobs. >>> just over an hour ago, millions of people in sydney, australia, rang in 2013. [ cheers ] >> crowds gathered to watch the skyline explode with fireworks. 1.5million people were expected to be at the celebration with millions more watching on tv from home. [ cheers ] and people i
before christmas. the deadline now is just days away and there is no deal in sight to avoid the tax hikes and spending cuts set to go into effect january 1st. our juan williams is a fox news political analyst and he joins us today and very quickly, juan, merry christmas to you. >> merry christmas, kelly. kelly: this is daunting task facing congress to avert the so-called fiscal cliff that will set into motion more than $600 billion in drastic and draconian allic tax hikes and spending cuts. that will cause a lot of pain for all americans and does congress have enough time to act on this? >> they do. you know it will be very close and it may in fact go beyond the deadline per se although people are thinking at the moment it is possible to get something done by the end of this week. the key here, kelly, is the senate. we have been so focused on the house, speaker boehner, plan. about, plan b falling apart. now speaker boehner is pointing towards the senate and the white house is pointing towards the senate as a place where we might get bipartisan cooperation. they think they have 10 republi
. there is a debate to be had. should it be a carbon tax, a cat capt. trade legislation? there are now conservative groups who are advancing with free-market branded solutions. the other day, a filler in the conservative booth, came out in support of a carbon tax. [applause] grover norquist chemo for about 16 hours. -- came out for about 16 hours. [laughter] definitely carbon taxes is bubbling up. rush right. and from a surprising source. people on the conservative side of the political spectrum, ultimately, i should not be a bar -- a partisan political issue. the day the sandy hit, i was with many people. >> of is just about to touch on that. fires burned homes with their democrats for republicans. the climate system does not care. hopefully, what we can do as scientists, is checked the risks and then the location details. but that is a whole different ball game. >> my name is carol stone. do you think the mayan calendar this year will have any effect? and what is the effect of the population in the world -- a billion on this issue of carbon -- >> violation? >> that -- there is a number of factors
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